Sunday, May 20, 2018

Ka-Okee: Daughter of Pocahontas or Genealogy Legend?

The internet is now full of stories about Ka-Okee, the supposed lost daughter of Pocahontas and her first husband, the warrior Kokoum. While many people embraced the story immediately, others have been quick to immediately dismiss it as the stuff of genealogical fairy-tales.

The only portrait of Pocahontas made
during her lifetime.
I first found the story of Ka-Okee when researching a line of my own family. If the pieced-together pedigrees are to be believed, I am descended from Ka-Okee through her daughter, Christian Pettis, and her granddaughter, Ann Martin, who married Edward Watts.

The line has been researched and documented with primary source documents by me up through the marriage of Ann Martin and Edward Watts. When I did a Google Books search for the two names together to see if anything else would come up, I came across the book Shawnee Heritage IV by Don Greene, who connected the couple to Ka-Okee via Christian Pettis. When I saw that Ka-Okee was apparently the daughter of Pocahontas, I had to know more.

I quickly came upon two blog posts on the subject - one embracing it as truth, and one instantly and flippently dismissing it as fiction. It was clear that I wasn't going to get unbiased opinions here, so I set out to find the truth of the matter and to draw my own conclusions.

I quickly found the original Patawomeck Tides newsletter where the story of Ka-Okee made its debut. The basic premise of the tribal historian, Bill Deyo, seemed to be simple enough: he knew of several families who claimed descent from Pocahontas according to their family traditions, but none of them descended from the Bollings (the family from which all of Pocahontas' documented descendants come, via her granddaughter, Jane Rolfe, who married a Bolling). They did, however, all descend from the Martin and Pettus families. There was already a long-standing oral tradition in the Martin family that one of their early colonial ancestors had married a Native American girl named Ka-Okee. Deyo knew that Ka-Okee must connect to Pocahontas somehow, but he did not know exactly how.


It was then that Bill Deyo discovered the book The True Story of Pocahontas: The Other Side of History by Dr. Linwood "Little Bear" Custalow and Angela L. Daniel "Silver Star." In this book, Angela L. Daniel recorded the sacred oral history of the Mattaponi tribe, as told by Dr. Custalow, their chief. The oral tradition had been passed down from generation to generation for hundreds of years, and had never before been recorded in writing. The Mattaponi people were the tribe of Pocahontas' mother. The book confirmed what Deyo had already been thinking - that there must have been another child besides Thomas Rolfe, the child of Pocahontas and John Rolfe. Deyo then concluded that as all lines led back to the Martin family, the child must have married into the family at some point, and that this child must have been Ka-Okee, the Native American ancestor that had been part of their family traditions for generations.

After purchasing the book and reading it, I confirmed one interesting point. As Bill Deyo points out in the Patawomeck Tides newsletter, the tribe really did not know much about the child of Pocahontas and Kokoum, other than the fact that a child existed. In the timeline at the end of the book, the authors state that "[between 1610 and 1612] Pocahontas came of age. She was about thirteen years old. Pocahontas fell in love with and married Kokoum, an elite Patawomeck warrior and a guard at Werowocomoco. They eventually moved to the Patawomeck tribe and had a child. Because the baby's name is not known, he is referred to in the manuscript as "Little Kokoum." If the name of the child was not known, it is reasonable to speculate that the gender of the child might also have been unknown; the child could just as easily have been a daughter as a son.

Up to this point, I have only given a summery of what I found while researching. Here is my interpretation of the information found, and my opinion on Ka-Okee:

  1. The book The True Story of Pocahontas should be considered a credible source, and the assertion that Pocahontas and Kokoum had a child together should be taken as fact. The book was originally a dissertation, written as the final step in Angela Daniel's requirement to earn a Ph.D. in anthropology from the College of William and Mary, an Ivy League institution (see the acknowledgements at the end of the book). This manuscript had to go through a rigorous processes of review from a dissertation committee made up of experts in the field, and everything in the manuscript that could be confirmed via documentation was in fact documented. If a committee of experts in the field are willing to accept these assertions from the Mattaponi tribe as fact, so should we.
  2. William Strachey, a member of the Virginia Company, wrote in 1612 that Pocahontas was married to Kokoum for at least two years. Two years is plenty of time in which to have a child. Yes, the couple would have been very young; but during the early 17th century, young girls were frequently married in their early teenage years and bore children soon thereafter.
  3. All of the families mentioned by Deyo in the newsletter do descend from the Martin and Pettis/Pettus families. William Pettus, an accomplished genealogist who has published two volumes on the Pettis/Pettus family, has accepted the Ka-Okee story as true. You can read his comments on the story here.
  4. Whether the child was a boy or a girl, the child most likely does have hundreds of descendants by now. The number of Pocahontas descendants who descend from Thomas Rolfe number in the thousands, including two former first ladies of the United States. It would be reasonable to assume that the first child's descendants would be similar in number, and likely have a few notables among them.

Based on the available information, I absolutely believe that Pocahontas and Kokoum had a child. I believe that it is very likely that this child was female, and that this is a huge part of the reason why this story has not been known until now. I believe that it is very possible that the child was the Native American woman who apparently married Thomas Pettus, known as Ka-Okee.

Will we every know the story in it's entirety? No. Will we ever know for sure if the child was male or female? With the advances in Ancestry DNA testing, it's quite possible. Will we ever find a contemporary written reference to any of this? It's possible, but probably not.

I would love to hear your thoughts on this story, particularly if any professional genealogists ever happen across this page. It is an intriguing story, and one that, if proven true, could change our entire outlook on early colonial Native American genealogy.

35 comments:

  1. It's a good story. I am also a descendant of Christian Martin Waddington who was the supposed daughter of Ka Okee, whoever she actually was. It's a fun little bit of speculative history to think about...however impossible it will likely remain, to bring to WikiTree standards!

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    1. In December 2022 while doing genealogy research. I found lineage to Ka-okee. Im part Cherokee. So i research the name. Learned it was matoaka's & Kocoum daughter. My lineage comes from them two to Ka-okee & thomas pettus, next to stephen pettus & his wife, then daughter daughter Susanna pettus....
      Ka-okee is my 12 great grandmother.
      Last week i spoke to an extended cousin she told me through our lineage were directly related to matoka "Pocahontas" sister line. I asked her for assistant to proper understanding how. As I not fully research that line.
      Now, going back to Ka-okee lineage at 12. Then pettus down by 2 generation.
      Ragland by like 2 generation. Davis by 2 or 3 generation. Thomas - from grandmother to 5th great grandfather.

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    3. I am a direct descendant of the Martin/Pettus line as well and Cherokee too but it is not my Cherokee roots that connect me . Christian Pettus/Martha Martin/Catherine Garton/William C Petty Sr Line (my 7th Great Grandfather). I do find it intriguing. I was wondering if it is possible to find a Bolling descendant (Of Jane Rolfe's) and determine DNA testing with others who claim a direct descendancy from Ka-Okee. Or would the dna quantum level be to diluted to make the determination? Without Written documentation it is almost impossible to say who is right or wrong but blood would tell if that is even possible so far down the lineage

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  2. Im a decenant from her full blood sister cleopatra. Thanks for sharing this.

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  3. "If a committee of experts in the field are willing to accept these assertions from the Mattaponi tribe as fact, so should we."

    As a matter of fact they didn't accept it (or never saw it) as Angela Daniel quit the program, or was removed from it, I'm not sure which. She didn't achieve a doctorate at Wm & Mary. The Custalow/Daniel book is a hoax, sorry to say. I can tell you more if you like, or visit my Pocahontaslives website. Cheers.

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    1. https://www.pocahontaslives.com/on-custalows-true-story.html

      Here is the website address for his explanation, but I will forewarn you that it does nothing to prove his claim that "The Custalow/Daniel book is a hoax, sorry to say", which was particularly frustrating because it was a slog to read. He basically does the same thing he claims Custalow/Daniel did in their writing: he uses hearsay, conjecture, and omission of key facts to bolster what is merely his opinion. He presents no real evidence and makes some rather flawed assumptions about the authors. He even notes that nothing he has written proves his belief that the book is a hoax, and yet here we find his comments that clearly state it is.

      As an example, one of his clear points of contention is the claim that Pocahontas was murdered. The Custalow/Daniel book does indeed make this claim, but what he is misunderstanding is that they have only merely relayed the belief of the people that passed the story down. It is not claimed as absolute proof that she was murdered, only that that is what the Mattaponi people believed had happened. This does not contradict the likelihood that Pocahontas died from disease, it only expresses the thoughts of the people of the time who were unfamiliar with the concept of the disease that likely killed her.

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  4. I just discovered this week that Pocahontas was my 11th Great Grandmother through Ka Okee.

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    1. How did you discover that? What documentation is there that she existed? I'm very interested.

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    2. try Looking at ancestry.com that finds the record for you. or do your DNA test that works to.

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    3. DNA would be the only ACTUAL proof...Ancestry only has written documentation for which their is none regarding this particular conundrum. And there are those who might be an actual descendant that would test with no DNA matching

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    4. In respect to DNA: it shows what you are mixed with. Example: you have native American. DNA doesn't prove what tribe. It shows if you are related to your living parents. Or quote: black, white, Asian, middle eastern, native American. And to what percentage.

      I'm registered to Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. You need documentation. A direct descendant on Dawes roll to register in tribe. I had my third, second, and first great grandmother and grandfather. But you need state certified death certificate as evidence and Dawes roll number as well. Each tribe has different requirements.

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  5. I believe Ka-Okee's husband was Theodore Pettus, Thomas' brother

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  6. If there was no documented proof that Ka-Okee existed or who she married, then why assume it must be so? A lot of families wanted to be related to Pocahontas, and have assumed it to be fact. And why is Pocahontas more important than any other Indian?

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    1. I am currently working on a follow-up post on this topic, as I have been in communication with Bill Deyo and have gathered some additional information that greatly helped to further my understanding of who Ka-Okee was and how she fits into the narrative.

      "Documentation" takes on many forms. Just because something was not written on paper does not mean it is not true. Most of the indigenous tribes involved in this narrative did not have a written language at the time that these events took place, and so they preserved information in the way that they always had - by passing it down from generation to generation. Do you really think that white people have the right to say that they know Native American history and traditions better than Native Americans, simply because white people were the first ones to write a tiny portion of it down?

      As for Pocahontas: she was indeed a historically significant person, but as a human being she was no more significant than any other Native American. I believe that people seek to find a genealogical connection to her not only because of her extraordinary story, but because she is one of the few Native Americans that history remembers by name. For every Pocahontas, Zitkala-Sa, or Susan LaFlesche Picotte, there are literally millions of Native American women whose names were never recorded on paper, and unfortunately go unremembered today.

      I can personally trace my ancestry back to Christian Pettus Martin using primary source documents. Patawomeck tradition has long said that Christian's mother was a Native American woman named Ka-Okee - long before the Mattaponi oral history of Pocahontas' first child was known outside of the Mattaponi tribe. It was William Deyo who was able to connect the dots between the two. As I said above, I will be doing a follow-up post that further expounds upon all of the additional info that he gave me. And as I said in this post, this theory will probably never be able to be "proven" by traditional standards; but at the same time, many a commonly accepted theory has been based on less.

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    2. The bottom line for me... every one should complete a DNA test. The test(s) should all be compiled and compared. The common denominators should be evaluated. The test will reveal those that do have lineage to Matoaka, Ka-Okee and/or each other. Then everyone will know that they are related to some degree to each other.

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    3. Just like in school. The teacher talks. Student listens and remembers. Parents (Adults) guide and instruct children.

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  7. Interesting. I was ready to dismiss this as lunacy, but it seems to have some basis in fact. Nice work dissecting this theory and tracing its origins.

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  8. Thank you! Interest in this post has recently increased significantly. I am working on a follow-up post that will include a lot of information that I gathered by corresponding with Bill Deyo.

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    1. According to my research and family history KaOkee is my 13th great grandmother. My line was traced to her through my mother's mother's family finally reaching her and Thomas's son Stephen. I am hoping to educate myself further through your extensive research. I would love to pick your brain a little and would love to join your search for truth as well. I don't know if I would be of any help as I'm a novice but if there's anything I could do it would be an honor.

      With love,
      Amanda Jewel Landrum

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    2. I learned last month, December 2022. Pocahontas & Kocoum. Is my 13th great grandparents. Ka-okee is my 12th great grandmother. Through Ka-okee marriage to thomas pettus. Stephen pettus is 11th. Susanna (pettus) ragland is 10th. Catherine (ragland) davis is 9th. William davis is 8th.
      Mary (davis) thomas is 7th. Isaac Thomas is 6th. William thomas is 5th. Reuben thomas is 4th. Benjamin Franklin Thomas is 3rd. Charles Edward Thomas is 2nd. Paul Andrew Thomas is 1st. Nila Bernice (Thomas) - (roberts) /(wyatt) / campbell. Paul Andrew (Roberts) wyatt. Paul Jason Roberts. Victoria annalisse putri Roberts. * my line directly from Pocahontas to my child.

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  9. I to would like to learn moreof this incredible ancestor of mine.

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  10. I am living prove she was real as I am a descendant of Ka-Okee thru Christian and John Martin thru their daughter Martha who married John Garton and so on and so. Ka-Okee is a 11th Great grandmother. I grew up hearing stories we might be related to Pocahontas but since the Bolling claim they are the ONLY ones related we did not think much of it until back in 1977 my mother started researching the hard way, books, records, stories and then two years ago I picked up where she left off and found yes we are related.

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    1. Thanks for getting in touch! I am currently working on a follow-up to this post, since I have gathered more information in the time since this post was written. I would love to hear more about your family stories and about yours and your mother's research before I publish it. Would you care to get in touch with me via email? My address is alikessinger@gmail.com. Thank you!

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  11. I was also told by my grandmother (a Fugate whose mother was a Peyton) that we were related to Pocahonas. Most of my family felt it was an exaggeration by her. I am related to Christian Pettus and John Martin through their son John S. Martin. I am also very interested in being a part of this research as much as possible. Looking forward to any new information available.

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    1. Thanks for getting in touch! I have had several descendants of the Fugate family tell me that they have strong family traditions about being related to Pocahontas. It cannot be a coincidence. My follow-up post about the additional info I've received about Ka-Okee if forthcoming!

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    2. Hello lynn herrick... Im related to Christian brother Stephen pettus. Downline. I would love to learn your genealogy. If possible. 12abc6k@gmail.com

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    3. I am sorry, I missed your message. My genealogy is on Ancestry and is public, 'Lynn's Family Tree'. If you don't have acccess to Ancestry let me know and I will try to arrange some way to share information.

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  13. Now everyone will claim kin to her and this family! I love how no one has any sources to identify family just that they are kin! Typical of armchair genealoly, I am flesh and blood and of this family and Cousin Bill Deyo is my cousin..Don't have a clue who the others are!

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  14. I believe this is truth. I am also a descendant of this lineage & my DNA matches on Gedmatch, 23&Me, & FamilyTree.com seem to support it.

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  15. Wow! Do you realize we are all related? I wasn't looking for this but I have a tree on familysearch.org and they notified me that Ka-Okee is my 11th grandmother. I have pictures of the branch. It was from Colonel Thomas Pettus - Ka-Okee and it goes from there. There was a line to Pocahontas, but family search deleted it saying there was no real proof. I am surprised an Indigeous People connection was made this way. We were looking at my great grandmother, Turzie Earley Greathouse. Her parentage is a mystery other than her mom's name but if you saw her you would think she's Indian or something. We all have the dark hair, brown slanted eyes.

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  16. Thank you for many helpful insights into the complexity of one's ancestor's past actions. I truly hope many descendants, no matter if they are actually related or have been told their related, come together in peacefulness. So much hatred can come from misunderstandings, confusion, people just trying to thrive on earth. Do we now have the big picture of all this? I learned something recently, that truly hurt me deeply. People I trusted, they really didn't like me, my family my ancestors. Amazingly enough, they were people of every racial group and probably most were well respected. I am a mixture of this and that, didn't know how prejudice people could be! Lol 😮 Thank you again for revealing truths, even if it's shocking sometimes, healing can happen; let it happen.

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